All Rights ReservedRandolph, Rainer2025-01-232025-01-232016978-85-7785-551-1https://hdl.handle.net/20.500.14235/2500Proceedings of the IV World Planning Schools Congress, July 3-8th, 2016 : Global crisis, planning and challenges to spatial justice in the north and in the southThis paper proposes to carry out a rereading of two of our contributions regarding public planning theme (urban and regional in principle) that have been produced at two different times within the trajectory of our reflection in more than 20 years. There are two moments marked by two different positions on ways of planning that apparently - and only in appearance - are opposites: the first, in the mid-1990s, we held discussions and defence of a planning called "communicative" by its creators (RANDOLPH 1995); now, in the second, in more recent times, we are defending the need to rethink the planning and begin to propose another form what we call "subversive" (2007 RANDOLPH, 2014). By observing these two "ends" of the trajectory it seems that there was, in this period, such a deep inflection of our reflection we should have made obsolete that debate of 1995. But, somewhat paradoxically, this is not the case as will be noticed from our efforts to recover the older approach.EnglishopenAccessStructural origins of subversion in capitalist societies: some reflections about planningconferenceObject765-767